My specialized turbo levo, has been stolen two months ago. It’s register in Mission Control with my serial number. I found ad in internet and tomorrow I’ll go to see the bike. Can I prove that is mine if electricity of the bike is turn on and my app is turn on also?
Stolen specialized turbo levo
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You can prove it USED TO BE yours.
You can NOT prove it was not sold to the new owner in a transaction they can claim was legitimate.
There is no legal title which requires a transfer to be registered.
Being "registered in Mission Control" is not a "proof of ownership" and has zero legal importance. Hopefully it has made you feel better about the overpriced merchandise you paid for.
You can try and bluff your way through but a bluff is all it is. A cop or judge will laugh you out of the room.
You can NOT prove it was not sold to the new owner in a transaction they can claim was legitimate.
There is no legal title which requires a transfer to be registered.
Being "registered in Mission Control" is not a "proof of ownership" and has zero legal importance. Hopefully it has made you feel better about the overpriced merchandise you paid for.
You can try and bluff your way through but a bluff is all it is. A cop or judge will laugh you out of the room.
It proves that you USED TO own it.
You could have sold it. There is no required documentation for this.
Did you report it stolen? Claim it on your insurance?
Could you do both of these things AFTER having sold the bike for cash?
REPEAT - There is no registered title. There is no proof of ownership.
IF the guy who has it is KNOWN to be shady and
IF you reported it stolen and
IF the cops happen to like you and
IF you can BS the guy who has it now then
MAYBE you have a shot.
You could have sold it. There is no required documentation for this.
Did you report it stolen? Claim it on your insurance?
Could you do both of these things AFTER having sold the bike for cash?
REPEAT - There is no registered title. There is no proof of ownership.
IF the guy who has it is KNOWN to be shady and
IF you reported it stolen and
IF the cops happen to like you and
IF you can BS the guy who has it now then
MAYBE you have a shot.
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@ElHegpah - sounds like you are a lawyer or have experience with the law...your statements about ownership are not false but that is not the common law threshold for proving theft of property (in the USA).
@anroto - with the invoice, registration and serial number all matching the bike, you can prove it is the bike you purchased. The alleged thief would have to also produce similar evidence of purchase and ownership. Even an off the market cash transaction involves a 3rd party and just because he tells the cop he bought the bike cash, can the alleged thief provide documentation of the communication or said cash transaction?
A good cop would take your side as you would have all the documentation and evidence needed to prove ownership. You don't need to prove that you never sold it. The onus of proof of ownership would be thief and with his claims of only having oral and verbal communication and a cash only transaction, his case is much weaker than yours. Fight the thief until the end!!!
@anroto - with the invoice, registration and serial number all matching the bike, you can prove it is the bike you purchased. The alleged thief would have to also produce similar evidence of purchase and ownership. Even an off the market cash transaction involves a 3rd party and just because he tells the cop he bought the bike cash, can the alleged thief provide documentation of the communication or said cash transaction?
A good cop would take your side as you would have all the documentation and evidence needed to prove ownership. You don't need to prove that you never sold it. The onus of proof of ownership would be thief and with his claims of only having oral and verbal communication and a cash only transaction, his case is much weaker than yours. Fight the thief until the end!!!
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