New Aventon Aventure with throttle Lag

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like my new Aventure Aventure, but the lag from throttle on or start of peddle is WAY TO LONG! For the throttle it takes 3-4 seconds to feel the motor start to kick in. And it takes 1 1/2 rotations of the peddle to feel any assist. That may not sound like much, but it makes the bike feel sluggish and unresponsive. Is there anything that can be done to make my new bike more responsive? I’d consider changing out components if that’s what it would take. Or hacking into the sofeware. Thoughts…

Does it have to do with the crank sensor vs force sensor on other bikes?
Is it just the way the controller is programed?
Would a different throttle make a difference?
Am I expecting too much from this level of ebike
 
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Only a pricey one, and then not entirely,
Maybe, maybe not
 

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like my new Aventure Aventure, but the lag from throttle on or start of peddle is WAY TO LONG! For the throttle it takes 3-4 seconds to feel the motor start to kick in. And it takes 1 1/2 rotations of the peddle to feel any assist. That may not sound like much, but it makes the bike feel sluggish and unresponsive. Is there anything that can be done to make my new bike more responsive? I’d consider changing out components if that’s what it would take. Or hacking into the sofeware. Thoughts…

Does it have to do with the crank sensor vs force sensor on other bikes?
Is it just the way the controller is programed?
Would a different throttle make a difference?
Am I expecting too much from this level of ebike
Do you mean a Aventon Aventure? I just answered another question I think from you on another forum.

This is not normal operation. You need to contact the aventon company as there is no programming info I have been able to find on YouTube or other internet sources.

I have to ask why would even consider changing components before contacting the seller or mfg of the bike?
 

Astrotraveler

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like my new Aventure Aventure, but the lag from throttle on or start of peddle is WAY TO LONG! For the throttle it takes 3-4 seconds to feel the motor start to kick in. And it takes 1 1/2 rotations of the peddle to feel any assist. That may not sound like much, but it makes the bike feel sluggish and unresponsive. Is there anything that can be done to make my new bike more responsive? I’d consider changing out components if that’s what it would take. Or hacking into the sofeware. Thoughts…

Does it have to do with the crank sensor vs force sensor on other bikes?
Is it just the way the controller is programed?
Would a different throttle make a difference?
Am I expecting too much from this level of ebike
1.5 crank revolutions is normal for a cadence sensored, rear hub motored ebike, Your cadence is zero (0) until you complete one full revolution.

And it's a bicycle - who really buys a bicycle to rely the throttle anyway? I have ~550 miles on my Aventure now and have yet to bother with the throttle. If I wanted to depend on a throttle, I'd have purchased a motorcycle.

Set up as a Level 2 bike, using PAS 3 and 4, I'm getting over 100 miles per charge ~15-16 mph average over 70% flat/30% hilly terrain. That far exceeds my range expectations and Aventon's own "real world" estimates with the bike set up as a Level 3 bike. It blows my mind that I can do 18 low effort miles to my favorite trailhead, hike 7-8 miles, then backtrack 18 miles home, and use only 15-18% of the battery charge.

One possibility is that your brakes may not be set up correctly. It's pretty common for the brakes on ship-to-customer-for-assembly bikes to be maladjusted. If the bike thinks the brake is being applied there's a switch that cuts the motor. You might have a look and make sure your braked aren't rubbing and the levers are returning to open when released.

Good luck sorting out your issues though the crank rotation to boost engagement sounds pretty normal. Oh, and the bike is heavy, but if you shift into an easier gear as you're coming to a stop, it's very easy to get the bike going without needing instant electric motor engagement.
 

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ANy luck with this I feel like I am having the same problem. Takes a little while for motor to kick in on heavier bike
 

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I have an aventon in my ebike collection.
Throttle will not work unless the bike is on forward motion.
From dead stop Throttle does not engage.
 

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I purchased mine from a local dealer and when I demo ride the step through and high step. They behaved in same manner also throttle cuts out at 20 mph.
Mine is 2019 model maybe newer Aventons particularly Aventure model is different programming.
I @Aventurer bike has a lag take it to shop.
 

toddparr

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I purchased mine from a local dealer and when I demo ride the step through and high step. They behaved in same manner also throttle cuts out at 20 mph.
Mine is 2019 model maybe newer Aventons particularly Aventure model is different programming.
I @Aventurer bike has a lag take it to shop.
Mine has a pretty long lag as well. At least it seems like it when you are trying to cross a bust road :) Mine will take off from a dead stop, but there is still a lag. I've only had mine for a few days.
 
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Throttle "lag" is common and normal. First, there is a delay, second, 40-60% of the throttle travel is absolutely dead or non-responsive.

The "delay" in the pedal sensor is reasonable and a safety feature. Sitting at a stop, a fair amount of pedal rotation is fairly common and having the motor react to this "instantly" would be a major safety problem.

Better quality throttles can eliminate much of the "dead zone" in throttle travel. Programmable controllers can allow for faster reaction to throttle input, as well as pedal sensor input. Be default, and where programming is not available, the delay is considered valuable and necessary for user safety.

Now, the condition mentioned by one user of no throttle at all when not moving is NOT a common condition. However, if someone is at a dead stop, then floors the throttle and starts pedaling at the same time, the delay in activating the motor from throttle input would appear to support the concept of no throttle until moving. What is really happening, I believe, is that while the two are not connected, they just seem to be due to coincidence.
 

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Stand on the pedal with your stronger leg and hold throttle from a dead stop your aventon will take off like a scalded cat.
Try it .
You newbies needs to break in your ebikes. acclimate it to your riding preferences.
BTW English is my second language.
I web search acclimate to make me understandable to you all.
That will eliminate the lag
Aventon PAS is programmed to detect forward motion of the crank shaft and it kicks in.
In fact my level will maintain 28 mph on even pathways as long as I keep it on level 5 assist

Aventon calls it ghost pedaling others who owns aventons called it monkey pedaling.
 
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