Now I remember the nonsense.
How does everyone prevent theft? Bike lock? Alarm? Airtag?
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In a perfect world.
Yes I agree, and sometimes you are forced to leave it unattended depending on the circumstances. I just got a 10-ft cable lock that I can put around the frame and both Wheels and attach it to a secure spot, so that should be good for times I need to run into a store or whatever. Still there's probably a lot of accessories people could steal off of the bike if they wanted to jerks, but a 10-ft cable lock should stop them for what things I would leave it unattended for most of the time.
In junior high school, I had my Schwinn Continental locked to a bike rack, and someone stuck their foot through the spokes and stood on them. Another time, someone stole the seat, and another someone pulled the wheel skewers. If it's locked well, they may not be able to steal it, but they can still damage it or make it unrideable. Just letting the air out of someones tires can be a pain in the ass. (Gary, I promise on my life I won't do it again. It was just a joke, and you caught up with me after only two beers.) Have you seen how easy it is to cut a cable lock? Even my solid Ti folding locks can be cut with a diamond wheel. You're right about the accessories, too. One of my bar-bags lifts right off, and I can put the GPS, phone, cameras, glasses, etc., in it to take it into a store. Ottolock chinch locks can be used to lock my battery, Bluetooth speaker, and panniers onto the bike, but they could still be vandalized. Imagine how nervous solo world tour riders get when they have to leave their bike unattended for even seconds. That's why I believe in a cover with a motion detector under it- in addition to all the other precautions.
Stay safe.
BiggKidd
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By having everyone see you carry a side arm. It's amazing how much shyer thieves are when the see armed individuals about!
It seems that you might be open carrying?
I conceal carry probably 95% of the time I am awake. Although, my piece stays concealed in my front pocket.
Yeah.... no. Guns only make things worse.
Since 2007, the Violence Policy Center (VPC) has documented at least 2,5q2 deaths involving concealed handgun permit holders, with 95% of those incidents involving suicide, murder-suicide, or the death of the permit holder.
Here's a more detailed breakdown of the data:
Since 2007, the Violence Policy Center (VPC) has documented at least 2,5q2 deaths involving concealed handgun permit holders, with 95% of those incidents involving suicide, murder-suicide, or the death of the permit holder.
Here's a more detailed breakdown of the data:
- Concealed Carry Killers:
The VPC's online resource, "Concealed Carry Killers", documents 2,253 fatal, non-self-defense incidents in 40 states and the District of Columbia.
- Incidents:
These incidents include 37 fatal mass shootings, 24 law enforcement officer deaths, 544 incidents involving convictions, and 64 incidents involving murder-suicides.
- Suicides:
95% of the incidents involved suicide, with 2,154 deaths attributed to suicide.
- Other Deaths:
24 incidents involved the death of the permit holder, and 64 involved murder-suicides.
- Data Source:
The data is based on the VPC's research and analysis of publicly available information.
- VPC's Purpose:
The Violence Policy Center is a national educational organization working to stop gun death and injury.
- Further Research:
Additional information, including a state-by-state breakdown of fatal incidents involving concealed carry killers, is available at concealedcarrykillers.org.
BiggKidd
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I am and I have for over thirty years, amazing deterrent. I've had my CCW since about 1993 but 95% of the time it's open carry for me! Back when I got my permit at 22-23YO one had to prove the need it wasn't nearly as easy as it is now to get a permit.
BiggKidd
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You may want to dig a LOT deeper for the real numbers of how often a good person with a gun stops trouble. They try HARD to hide the actual stats! Have to keep the BS in the front don't ya know!!!
If ALL responsible adults were carrying 97% of all crimes would vanish! Dig deeper and learn the truth not the media's lies!
An armed society is a polite society! Fact not fiction do the homework learn the truth. Please help yourself.
Who determines who a "good person" is? You? Someone diametrically opposed to you? The person with the largest caliber weapon? He who carried the most bullets. What about the most extended range? Fastest fire rate? Most accurate? Can the "good person" also be sky-high on crack? What about a "good person" driving a long-haul truck high on anphetimens? Does the person's color affect whether he is a "good person?" What about their sex? What about age? Can you drop a 12-year-old because you consider them to be a "bad person?" It's more likely that a "good person" is going to have the weapon taken away from them and pushed into a bodily orifice. The topic is about trying to protect a bike.
Would you kill someone for attempting to steal an ebike worth less than $1K? $500? $100? If someone is hungry and asks for money to eat, are they a "bad guy?" Are most bike thieves armed? Does it even matter if they are armed? What about a"good person" shooting a "bad person" and killing a nun standing behind them? Does the "good person" then become a "bad person?" Guns have no place in protecting a bicycle, even my bike. If you are that scared, get a non-lethal form of protection; just don't carry it in a front pocket. It might keep you off death row if you mistakenly kill someone just admiring your bike.
Stay safe.
BiggKidd
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Common sense negates the chances of trouble from all if all know all are armed.
PLEASE help yourself and dig a little and learn the truth. I am not trying to bash you just asking you to learn the truth! I have had to pull my weapon twice and both times the police took the offender away after their investigation. I have NEVER had to fire on anyone but IF I am forced to I will to protect life mine yours or anyone's. I have three letters of accommodation from various agencies where I chose to step in and help others in distress.
All it takes for evil to succeed is for good people to stand idly by. All it takes to stop evil is to stand up and be held accountable.
PLEASE help yourself and dig a little and learn the truth. I am not trying to bash you just asking you to learn the truth! I have had to pull my weapon twice and both times the police took the offender away after their investigation. I have NEVER had to fire on anyone but IF I am forced to I will to protect life mine yours or anyone's. I have three letters of accommodation from various agencies where I chose to step in and help others in distress.
All it takes for evil to succeed is for good people to stand idly by. All it takes to stop evil is to stand up and be held accountable.
You can say what you want to me, man; I won't cry or whine about your tone, choice of words, or even what you say. I'm not a child.
1st, there is no such thing as "common" sense.
2nd, I'd love to see the accommodations and the police reports that must have been submitted showing your intervention.
My only request is that you answer my questions in the above comment.
Stay safe.
BiggKidd
Well-known member
Believe what you like as free will dictates. I'm not going to try and find papers from 15 plus years ago.
If you'd like you can search for yourself Virginia commendations to citizens from the state police, Amelia county and the city of Richmond. There's enough of my name in my screen name for you or anyone to figure it out with enough research.
Have a nice day!
Occam's razor.
Sorry that your thread got hijacked. Protecting your bike is a valid question, as long as it's protecting your bike in an unfrightened civilized world.
Stay safe.
any name you wish
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This is getting a little to political so I am going to say what I am going to say and bow out of the discussion. Statistically speaking I am far more likely to die while slipping in the shower than from gun violence. According to my source there were 16,576 fire arm related deaths excluding suicides in 2024 and the trend is going down (three years in a row) despite more and more "lax" gun laws (more states allowing open carry). With a population of over 345 million that gives one a 0.00678% chance of being killed by a firearm in any given year. Staying away from certain areas in this country (a very small area in total) reduces those odds greatly.
That's all I am going to say at here, if you wish to discuss this more I can point you to a forum where this is on topic. But be prepared we come with receipts.
Lyemit&Flan
Member
same here,if im fishing i always make sure i can see it.
plus,with my bike being close to 100 pounds loaded,
would be tough for someone to pedal it away without me catching them before they got anywhere hahahahaha
