Goat Power Bikes Motor Goat Dual Battery or Roll Road Emma 3.0

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Looking for some suggestions, I'm getting into E-Bikes after riding my Brothers Super73 Rx and have done my research. I have 2 bikes in mind, Motor goat v3 with dual batteries and Roll Road Emma 3.0. Any suggestions on either bike? Pros, cons etc?

I recently rode a Ride1UP Revv1 DRT and it was great, suspension was awesome. they have a deal right now where you can order one and get 50% off a 2nd battery and balancer, this would be another choice for me. I do like the Revv1 but I'm drawn to the motor goat and Emma 3.

Motor Goat: Comes with Charger and 2nd battery installed with balancer.

Emma 3: Comes with 2 seats, single and longer seat for a passenger, Lock and rack with Top case.
 
Lorraine said:
Looking for some suggestions, I'm getting into E-Bikes after riding my Brothers Super73 Rx and have done my research. I have 2 bikes in mind, Motor goat v3 with dual batteries and Roll Road Emma 3.0. Any suggestions on either bike? Pros, cons etc?

I recently rode a Ride1UP Revv1 DRT and it was great, suspension was awesome. they have a deal right now where you can order one and get 50% off a 2nd battery and balancer, this would be another choice for me. I do like the Revv1 but I'm drawn to the motor goat and Emma 3.

Motor Goat: Comes with Charger and 2nd battery installed with balancer.

Emma 3: Comes with 2 seats, single and longer seat for a passenger, Lock and rack with Top case.
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Get the MotorGoat V3!

Idk if I would even put the Roll Road Emma in the same category.

@addertooth has a MotorGoat maybe he will chime in.
 
Ride1UP is going to be the best quality, for sure. Are you thinking about a dirt bike or eMoped?

Read up on your local laws before buying. You will likely find the MotorGoat and Emma are not legal, where the Revv1 is. (and is still fast enough) It's all about how they're rated. The ChiComm brands advertise higher power with no qualifications that it's peak power, so if you're investigated (the cop only has to look at the rating on the wheel hub) you're in violation. Whereas the Revv1 has a marked power in compliance with the law (750 W) but its peak is much higher.
 
I look forward to more eMopeds that actually have a VIN that can be registered properly as a moped.
Yeah, it's an extra expense, but very little and no extra licensing and peace of mind to go just about anywhere one wants.
 
Smaug said:
Ride1UP is going to be the best quality, for sure. Are you thinking about a dirt bike or eMoped?

Read up on your local laws before buying. You will likely find the MotorGoat and Emma are not legal, where the Revv1 is. (and is still fast enough) It's all about how they're rated. The ChiComm brands advertise higher power with no qualifications that it's peak power, so if you're investigated (the cop only has to look at the rating on the wheel hub) you're in violation. Whereas the Revv1 has a marked power in compliance with the law (750 W) but its peak is much higher.
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I asked Roll Road's online customer service and they replied to me that the Emma belongs to Class 2, a 750w label on the frame, and shipped as 20mph. As long as you don't unolck the speed, it's legal to ride(35mph after unlocking the speed). Is that feasible?
 
Yes, it ships as Class 2. When unlocked, is it Class 3? (pedal-assist (no throttle) up to 28 mph)

Or will it throttle up to its top speed? If so, it's not legal. You can do it anyway and take your chances, but you should at least know what you're doing and what the risk is. ;-)
 
Just to offer a different view point on a couple of your opinions.. First, Many of us choice ebikes to avoid all the gotcha's of licencing, insurance etc. of motorcycle life. 2nd Roll-Road ships bikes with an actual Class 2 sticker and factory locked as a class 2. With that said, many of us like to take bikes off the streets and the option to HAVE A DUEL PURPOSE MACHINE is satisfying. That motor is actually a 750w Bafang Sutto motor with more potential peak available. Think 2 bikes in one purchase. Also living in most states, and especially for adult riders, I consider myself in my 2nd childhood, at age 77, but you get my drift. Adults tend to be more responisble then teenagers, who frankly seem to be causing the majority of the industry problems.
I do professional direct to consumer assemblies and bike set ups, teach safety classes and do custom bike builds. I love the industry and the entire concept of quiet and discreet fun/transportation. I have recently purchased a Roll-Road Emma 3.0 because, I get tired of all the budget bikes that have there place, but one can easily tire of. I use a bike for as much as of my transportion as possible. Things to appreciate with the Emma 3.0 are pretty much everything. Dual 52v 20a batteries using IRN EVE 21700 cells 50p (used by BMW) full UL ratings quality frame, Bafang drive train, quality rear and front suspension, hosts of accessories, quality wheels and tires, RGB headlight with low and high beams, 4 piston brakes , etc.
The company is exceptional for customer service and communication, as well as being rated close to full 5 stars. Which as an ebike tech, is almost the most important part. It is sad to say that the vast majority of ebike suppliers don't care about their customers, dont stock parts, many may answer the first time but will ghost you aftr that.
 
perhaps do some personal research , because one persons opinion my be slanted because the own a certain bike. They may not work in the ebike field as see countless brands come thru to work on. I found some info that may offer a little more help in your search.

Rid 1 Up
Bike QualityGenerally Positive. Many reviewers praise the build quality and use of quality, name-brand components.Many models are described as "well-made," "solid," or "stunning." Some reviewers mention minor component issues (like a poor-quality fork on older models) but the sentiment is largely positive.Customer ServiceMixed to Positive. Many praise the helpfulness and quick response of the staff. However, some negative reviews focus on frustrating or delayed warranty processes for electrical issues or damaged shipments.Described as "courteous and helpful," "quick and professional." But a few long-term complaints cite issues with delayed warranty claims or troubleshooting complex electrical problems.Ride ExperienceVery Positive. Praised for being fun, comfortable, and having good power and range."A blast to ride," "smooth and stable," "great ride quality," with one model being described as having "substantially more power than the competition."


Roll-Ride
AspectCustomer SentimentDetails from ReviewsOverall Rating (Own/Partner Sites)Extremely High (Near-Perfect 4.96/5). The overall average on their review pages is nearly perfect across hundreds of reviews.Reviews frequently praise the bike as "the best e-bike I have ever bought," "very high quality," and "amazing."Bike Features/SpecsHighly Praised. Reviewers are very impressed with the high power, large capacity batteries, long range, and components like torque sensors and full suspension (on certain models).Praised for features like the 1500W motor, dual battery option, 150-mile range, and 4-piston hydraulic brakes, often positioned as very high-spec for the price.





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Gatorproof said:
Just to offer a different view point on a couple of your opinions.. First, Many of us choice ebikes to avoid all the gotcha's of licencing, insurance etc. of motorcycle life. 2nd Roll-Road ships bikes with an actual Class 2 sticker and factory locked as a class 2. With that said, many of us like to take bikes off the streets and the option to HAVE A DUEL PURPOSE MACHINE is satisfying. That motor is actually a 750w Bafang Sutto motor with more potential peak available. Think 2 bikes in one purchase. Also living in most states, and especially for adult riders, I consider myself in my 2nd childhood, at age 77, but you get my drift. Adults tend to be more responisble then teenagers, who frankly seem to be causing the majority of the industry problems.
I do professional direct to consumer assemblies and bike set ups, teach safety classes and do custom bike builds. I love the industry and the entire concept of quiet and discreet fun/transportation. I have recently purchased a Roll-Road Emma 3.0 because, I get tired of all the budget bikes that have there place, but one can easily tire of. I use a bike for as much as of my transportion as possible. Things to appreciate with the Emma 3.0 are pretty much everything. Dual 52v 20a batteries using IRN EVE 21700 cells 50p (used by BMW) full UL ratings quality frame, Bafang drive train, quality rear and front suspension, hosts of accessories, quality wheels and tires, RGB headlight with low and high beams, 4 piston brakes , etc.
The company is exceptional for customer service and communication, as well as being rated close to full 5 stars. Which as an ebike tech, is almost the most important part. It is sad to say that the vast majority of ebike suppliers don't care about their customers, dont stock parts, many may answer the first time but will ghost you aftr that.
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You look Very familiar :)

Welcome to the forums! :cool:
 
Agreed the younger folks too young for a drivers license are giving us a bad name - blame the irresponsible parents
 
One indication of how an ebike supplier treats its customers after the sale is the price of spare parts.
Ride1Up 52V20Ah battery is $485 and includes a base plate.
Rollroad charges $759 no extras.
 
Ebiker549 said:
One indication of how an ebike supplier treats its customers after the sale is the price of spare parts.
Ride1Up 52V20Ah battery is $485 and includes a base plate.
Rollroad charges $759 no extras.
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I see your point. One of the first things I learned in the field is battery size and quality. But yes even Tuttio, a budget budget bike company charge like that for their replacement batteries. I will be the 1st to say that the Tuttio branded 52v 25ah battery I received was listed at a crazy $800 price. The problem there, for me at least was, the battery degradged almost instantly after maybe 10 charges. I never was able to match the top speed with 2 motors as i did on the 1st charge with just a single motor. Never peeked under the cover to see what the cells were. I dont find it unusal for parts depts to list crazy prices fo their parts. Have you been to a car dealer lately.
Ride1up uses Samsung cells on some of their batteries. Not sure if the battery your were checking was using those cells or another. In contrast, the Roll-Ride uses EVE cells, a more simular battery to the Samsung 50e cells. The difference is that even the Sammy cells list 800-1000 recharges in their catalog. The EVE 21700 cells are a different design to the Sams and list 1000 plus recharges. So harder to compare, in a way. The frame mount battery on the Roll-Rides are proprietary. They also use a custom BMS ,possibly why top EV car factories use th EVE cells. So not an off the shelf catalog mounting system.
 

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