For anyone considering the Aniioki a8 pro max or the Wallke H9 dual motors, here's a comparison

[Koester10000]

Neither bike is easy to pedal unpowered, Ebikes are heavy.

Aniioki sent me a replacement the halls sensor twice and it still having problems. It seems to start after it warms up. It will maintain the same pedal assist setting, say #2 but it will not switch to 1. 3 or 4.
After replacing the hall sensor I noticed that if I switched to 0 then back to 1 or 2 it starts working. That may be or it just may have start working again.

 

[Smaug]

Sounds like a controller firmware issue. Strange that it would start up like that out of nowhere.

Can you propose they send you a new controller with new firmware and you'll return the faulty one to them for inspection? Whether the issue is hardware or software, they should be able to find it, if they will only devote the electronics engineering resources to it.

 

[Pspurcha]

For anyone else who hasn't made a decision:

The #1 concern I would have on the Wallke is the folding feature. You mentioned in your other thread you'll be carrying a 60 lb child on the back, so the stakes are high. Folding frames are by their nature weaker than 1-pc frames. That folding mechanism is typically pretty good, but I have also heard that style of frame when loaded up and rolling fast tends to be a bit wobbly (the frame flexes). And with the 210-lb load you are giving it, and the high speeds you want to stay at, a pothole you fail to zig around could at best mean you are walking again.

On the Annioki side, the non-standard brake rotors mean I would want to source replacements in advance. Rotors will wear down to a need to replace at the rate of about once a year on a 40 mph bike carrying 200+ lbs, I think (this is just an educated guess). I would want an answer as to their thickness, which matters if you have to get smaller ones to replace.

FYI: Aniioki offers their brake rotors now on their website. For the A9 it is about $30.00.

 

[Ripitup]

For anyone considering the aniioki a8 pro max or the wallke H9 dual motors, here you go. Any insight is appreciated.

I’ve decided on either the annioki a8 pro max dual motor or the wallke H9 dual motor.
I’ve done all the research and watched all the videos. They’re both capable of doing everything I want. The annioki is $1,000 more but from what I can tell the price difference is legitimate considering the differences like

micro adj front sus and adj rear coil suspension.

Massive 300mm/220mm rotors and beefy 4 piston hydraulic mafia brakes and levers.

the display is a real display instead of the app thing with the wallke. They both have usb. Charging. The wallke has a find my iPhone kind of security feature in the app. The aniioki has actual theft protection features with alarms.

Wallke is 48v annioki is 52v
The power from both the motors on the Aniioki are more powerful than the wallke, overall WH on the wallke is 2880wh, it’s 3058 on the annioki, but actually more like 3100+
the annioki is 1200/1600 front 1500/1800 rear compared to the wallke nominal 1000rear 750front (I don’t know what the peak is for the wallke)
Wallke is 116 pounds
Aniioki is 130 pounds only a 14 pound difference even though the aniioki looks way heavier.
There’s the discrepancy with the seat tube size on the annioki but that seat is super plush, and replaceable on their website. You’d be hard pressed to swap it out for a suspension seat post but with that kind of control over both of your suspension you shouldn’t need a suspension seat post.

Real top speed throttle only on the wallke is 33mph
Real top speed of the annioki is 40!!!! Throtttle only

Yes the wallke folds and has extra battery add on capability in the frame, so that has it going for it. But with crazy range like that already who needs it. I do very much like the folding capability of it though and one of the reasons I haven’t completely decided yet.

They both absolutely rip it in the beach sand regardless of them both having 20” rims
Wallke has mags, annioki has spokes, I don’t care.

The rear rack on the wallke is built in and comes with a padded seat.
The aniioki is bolt on but beefy, it does not come with a rear padded cushion, but you can buy one from the website. Along with some pretty sweet rearview mirrors, rear baskets, and other stuff

CST knobby tires on wallke
Black cat tires on the annioki which are almost like a mix of street and dirt tires.

They both have 8A chargers and both charge in 7.5 hours

I don’t know the NM of either bike but they were almost exactly the same in the same hill climb tests.

The gears on the annioki I think are 7 speed shimano,not sure what kind. the wallke has shimano tourney.

This is a rough decision for me, I’ve heard good and bad about both bikes. And their companies.
Im sure I’ve forgotten some things but I’ll take all the info I can get from anyone with any experience with either one of them. Please. Final Decision coming soon…

It was a tough decision for me also. I have a small car, and the wallke would have fit inside the hatch back when folded. They make a HD carrier for the back of my car meant for oversized ebikes like the Aniioki, but thats extra $ plus time to install it. I think for the money saved in comparison the wallke would've been a fine choice. As far as range goes, my rear end realistically is not going to put up with a 100+ mile at a time journey anyway! Not without a serious break. The Aniioki seat on the A9 is comfy, maybe more comfy than the wallke. I think either bike is a good choice. IMO all of these great big heavy lithium battery powered ebikes will be obsolete in 10 years when solid state batteries come out anyway. So the less money spent for something so close in performance has to be accounted for also. Good luck, Rubber to the road!

 

[Cedotze]

I went ahead and purchased the walkie H9. I got it for $1800 and it came with a gift package which I think is a helmet and saddlebag kind of thing.
The aniioki is a serious machine and it’d be sweet. but to pay 3k for it when I can get everything I need for $1800 seems silly.

The folding capability is a pretty big deal when you really think about it. If you’re out with it and something goes wrong you can call an Uber and fold it up and put it in the trunk. Not to mention stuff another 20Ah battery in the frame.

Fair enough and thanks for your assessment