For anyone considering the Aniioki a8 pro max or the Wallke H9 dual motors, here's a comparison

[Bikerseth]

For anyone considering the aniioki a8 pro max or the wallke H9 dual motors, here you go. Any insight is appreciated.

I’ve decided on either the annioki a8 pro max dual motor or the wallke H9 dual motor.
I’ve done all the research and watched all the videos. They’re both capable of doing everything I want. The annioki is $1,000 more but from what I can tell the price difference is legitimate considering the differences like

micro adj front sus and adj rear coil suspension.

Massive 300mm/220mm rotors and beefy 4 piston hydraulic mafia brakes and levers.

the display is a real display instead of the app thing with the wallke. They both have usb. Charging. The wallke has a find my iPhone kind of security feature in the app. The aniioki has actual theft protection features with alarms.

Wallke is 48v annioki is 52v
The power from both the motors on the Aniioki are more powerful than the wallke, overall WH on the wallke is 2880wh, it’s 3058 on the annioki, but actually more like 3100+
the annioki is 1200/1600 front 1500/1800 rear compared to the wallke nominal 1000rear 750front (I don’t know what the peak is for the wallke)
Wallke is 116 pounds
Aniioki is 130 pounds only a 14 pound difference even though the aniioki looks way heavier.
There’s the discrepancy with the seat tube size on the annioki but that seat is super plush, and replaceable on their website. You’d be hard pressed to swap it out for a suspension seat post but with that kind of control over both of your suspension you shouldn’t need a suspension seat post.

Real top speed throttle only on the wallke is 33mph
Real top speed of the annioki is 40!!!! Throtttle only

Yes the wallke folds and has extra battery add on capability in the frame, so that has it going for it. But with crazy range like that already who needs it. I do very much like the folding capability of it though and one of the reasons I haven’t completely decided yet.

They both absolutely rip it in the beach sand regardless of them both having 20” rims
Wallke has mags, annioki has spokes, I don’t care.

The rear rack on the wallke is built in and comes with a padded seat.
The aniioki is bolt on but beefy, it does not come with a rear padded cushion, but you can buy one from the website. Along with some pretty sweet rearview mirrors, rear baskets, and other stuff

CST knobby tires on wallke
Black cat tires on the annioki which are almost like a mix of street and dirt tires.

They both have 8A chargers and both charge in 7.5 hours

I don’t know the NM of either bike but they were almost exactly the same in the same hill climb tests.

The gears on the annioki I think are 7 speed shimano,not sure what kind. the wallke has shimano tourney.

This is a rough decision for me, I’ve heard good and bad about both bikes. And their companies.
Im sure I’ve forgotten some things but I’ll take all the info I can get from anyone with any experience with either one of them. Please. Final Decision coming soon…

 

[Bikerseth]

I forgot the Aniioki is like $3000 the wallke is like $1800

 

[DieselTech]

I looked at both bikes. I think Aniioki A8 dual motor ebike is a lot better built bike. Especially if you look at the front fork dropouts. It's got built in torque arms.

I think I would want that security of knowing the front wheel is locked in the fork Especially carrying a kid/passenger.

Also looks like the Aniioki has way better brakes.

I bet the wallke h9 rear seat will bolt to the rear rack of the Aniioki.

 

[Bikerseth]

I went ahead and purchased the walkie H9. I got it for $1800 and it came with a gift package which I think is a helmet and saddlebag kind of thing.
The aniioki is a serious machine and it’d be sweet. but to pay 3k for it when I can get everything I need for $1800 seems silly.

The folding capability is a pretty big deal when you really think about it. If you’re out with it and something goes wrong you can call an Uber and fold it up and put it in the trunk. Not to mention stuff another 20Ah battery in the frame.

 

[m@Robertson]

For anyone else who hasn't made a decision:

The #1 concern I would have on the Wallke is the folding feature. You mentioned in your other thread you'll be carrying a 60 lb child on the back, so the stakes are high. Folding frames are by their nature weaker than 1-pc frames. That folding mechanism is typically pretty good, but I have also heard that style of frame when loaded up and rolling fast tends to be a bit wobbly (the frame flexes). And with the 210-lb load you are giving it, and the high speeds you want to stay at, a pothole you fail to zig around could at best mean you are walking again.

On the Annioki side, the non-standard brake rotors mean I would want to source replacements in advance. Rotors will wear down to a need to replace at the rate of about once a year on a 40 mph bike carrying 200+ lbs, I think (this is just an educated guess). I would want an answer as to their thickness, which matters if you have to get smaller ones to replace.

 

[Bikerseth]

For anyone else who hasn't made a decision:

The #1 concern I would have on the Wallke is the folding feature. You mentioned in your other thread you'll be carrying a 60 lb child on the back, so the stakes are high. Folding frames are by their nature weaker than 1-pc frames. That folding mechanism is typically pretty good, but I have also heard that style of frame when loaded up and rolling fast tends to be a bit wobbly (the frame flexes). And with the 210-lb load you are giving it, and the high speeds you want to stay at, a pothole you fail to zig around could at best mean you are walking again.

On the Annioki side, the non-standard brake rotors mean I would want to source replacements in advance. Rotors will wear down to a need to replace at the rate of about once a year on a 40 mph bike carrying 200+ lbs, I think (this is just an educated guess). I would want an answer as to their thickness, which matters if you have to get smaller ones to replace.

I think I read somewhere that they were 3mm

 

[m@Robertson]

I think I read somewhere that they were 3mm

Yikes that is thicker than can be taken by any bicycle caliper. So before buying one of those bikes you'd want to secure spares, or at least learn what rotors were originally meant for so you could get more on your own.

 

[Bikerseth]

He addressed the rotors at like 3:40
They’re 3mm
This is not the dual motor option, though I think they both have the same rotors.

This guy does fantastic reviews, there’s no stupid intros or blahblahblah and stupid talking just to talk and waste your time. It’s all info. Very useful info.

I’ll post the links to both models this post is about below

 

[Bikerseth]

 

[Bikerseth]

 

[Steelrazor]

My wife’s Aniioki AQ177 has 3mm rotors. The brake pads a considerably larger than standard disc pads.

 

[Rawly Old]

For anyone else who hasn't made a decision:

The #1 concern I would have on the Wallke is the folding feature. You mentioned in your other thread you'll be carrying a 60 lb child on the back, so the stakes are high. Folding frames are by their nature weaker than 1-pc frames. That folding mechanism is typically pretty good, but I have also heard that style of frame when loaded up and rolling fast tends to be a bit wobbly (the frame flexes). And with the 210-lb load you are giving it, and the high speeds you want to stay at, a pothole you fail to zig around could at best mean you are walking again.

On the Annioki side, the non-standard brake rotors mean I would want to source replacements in advance. Rotors will wear down to a need to replace at the rate of about once a year on a 40 mph bike carrying 200+ lbs, I think (this is just an educated guess). I would want an answer as to their thickness, which matters if you have to get smaller ones to replace.

I'd consider the single motor aniioki, but I've no great desire to go 45. I'd rather have more paths. Don't like that i can't use
my saddle without hammering out a shim.

 

[Everett]

I forgot the Aniioki is like $3000 the wallke is like $1800

I just got mine the annioki. And nothing but problems. Im going on my 3 controller. And the front shocks are terrible.

 

[Bikerseth]

I just got mine the annioki. And nothing but problems. Im going on my 3 controller. And the front shocks are terrible.

On which model?

 

[Bikerseth]

On which model?

And please fill us in on your experience with their customer support

 

[Everett]

I just got mine the annioki. And nothing but problems. Im going on my 3 controller. And the front shocks are terrible.

They are sending me the 3rd controller for the annioki pro 8 daul motor . I hope this one is the last .

 

[Everett]

They are sending me the 3rd controller for the annioki pro 8 daul motor . I hope this one is the last .

The 2nd one only went about 200 yards and shuts off couldn't even get it too turn back on .

 

[Everett]

The 2nd one only went about 200 yards and shuts off couldn't even get it too turn back on .

The first controller lasted about 50 miles and the 24 code came up now power to back motor . and it got so hot you could not touch it

 

[Everett]

The first controller lasted about 50 miles and the 24 code came up now power to back motor . and it got so hot you could not touch it

The customer service was pretty good . go to the whatsapp and then I just text them she replied right away . I took pics and video . and that was enough to get a response.

 

[Everett]

The customer service was pretty good . go to the whatsapp and then I just text them she replied right away . I took pics and video . and that was enough to get a response.

Also the bike came with the front shocks they right side had them bottom bolt missing and the aluminum rod inside the shock was not attached. I had to take it apart and put it together. And it still knocks terrible.