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[HumanPerson]

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["A"]

Fucare Taurus review: A superfast fat tire cross-country electric bike

The Fucare Taurus fat tire electric bike brings the same fun-loving, off-road riding you’ve seen with plenty of other adventure-style...

electrek.co

 

["A"]

Honda brings back its ’80s MotoCompo micro-motorcycle, but this time it’s electric​

https://electrek.co/2023/09/14/honda-motocompacto-electric-motorbike-unveiled/

 

["A"]

Why more high-end bike companies are making budget-level electric bikes

https://electrek.co/2023/09/18/why-...anies-are-making-budget-level-electric-bikes/

Because they offer higher profit margin for retailers? more volume in sales?

 

[HumanPerson]

"B"

 

["A"]

Profit margin for high end bicycles are very poor, most of the time in the single digits.
Lower end bicycles used to be keystone or more if you buy enough for stock, sometimes at the end of cycling season they even go down in price from manufacturers.

 

["A"]

Velotric Go electric utility bike review: A smaller cargo e-bike for heavy hauling that’s light on price

Velotric Go electric utility bike review: A smaller cargo e-bike for heavy hauling that's light on price

The Velotric Go fits squarely into one of my favorite electric bike categories – short tail cargo bikes. These are...

electrek.co

 

[biknut]

"Ride the loophole" That is an epic term you've just coined, biknut.

Only one thing, though: Mopeds are defined in a lot of places as being speed limited to 25 mph. Or 28 mph. Limited to 750 W motor. Etc. At that point, it's not a loophole any more, but just praying that the local cops will not notice.

Lol yeah that's funny, but I can't take credit for it. A YT blogger that rides a SurRon named Dillon Thomson coined the phrase. He reports on what he calls Loophole Culture.

 

["A"]

Budget minded ebike capable of 35+ mph.

 

[biknut]

There's getting to be a lot of good looking moped style eBikes. This one looks great.

 

[biknut]

There's getting to be a lot of good looking moped style eBikes. This one looks great.

The only problem is this bike needs at least 1500w. These moped style eBikes probably don't appeal to you bicycler eBikers, but like he says near the end of the video, "if you're a motorcycle rider looking for a eBike, this is your bike."

 

[biknut]

Budget minded ebike capable of 35+ mph.

One of my riding buddy's has one of these, and it is as fast as they claim. He also has a stock Kelper fatty that goes 35 mph too. I wouldn't classify either one of them as moped style though, he even told me the reason he choose those particular bikes was because they look like normie eBikes, and he thought that would help with riding the loophole.

 

[biknut]

This one looks nice. Good looking swing arm. Nice seat too.. Plus BIG battery. Just needs more power, and the frame looks like it could handle more too.

 

[biknut]

This one is pretty impressive looking too.

 

[biknut]

This one does almost 40 mph.

 

[Smaug]

Profit margin for high end bicycles are very poor, most of the time in the single digits.
Lower end bicycles used to be keystone or more if you buy enough for stock, sometimes at the end of cycling season they even go down in price from manufacturers.

Well, and aside from profit margin, I think a LOT of folks don't want to spend thousands of bucks. There is that magic $1k price point for acoustic bikes that they have to have a model below. Now, I think they need to have a model below the two kilobuck price point.

I bought my wife an Electra Townie GO! 7D this year and she loves it. I think It's Trek's cheapest eBike. It has only a 250 W hub motor and 36 V power system, but it does the job well up to its 20 mph Class 1 limit. Since they didn't go the fat tire route, it rolls efficiently and the 250 W motor w/36 V power system is adequate for 50 miles at 15 mph average. The quality advantage of it over these cheaper eBikes we're frequently looking at is immediately apparent:

ALL the hardware is better, right down to the charger (Listed) and jack. (multi-contact; can be used to wire in another battery pack)

So for internet spec sheet shoppers, it's a bad value. But when you see and ride one in person, it absolutely blows away a cheaply-made Chinese bike with better specs.

 

[Smaug]

Velotric Go electric utility bike review: A smaller cargo e-bike for heavy hauling that’s light on price

Velotric Go electric utility bike review: A smaller cargo e-bike for heavy hauling that's light on price

The Velotric Go fits squarely into one of my favorite electric bike categories – short tail cargo bikes. These are...

electrek.co

This is a screamin' deal, now that they've lowered the price to $1400.
They saw the Lectric Xpedition and had to lower the price to stay competitive.

 

[HumanPerson]

This is a screamin' deal, now that they've lowered the price to $1400.
They saw the Lectric Xpedition and had to lower the price to stay competitive.

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[DieselTech]

I was on amazon looking for a few things & ran across this emoped/bike. Looks nice! Priced at about what all dual motor emopeds/bikes are at around $3000.

 

[Smaug]

I dunno man. Three kiloBucks is a lot for a no-name Amazon eBike.

Also, why dual motor on a street-oriented bike? Spend that cost elsewhere. Bigger motor on the rear maybe? More stout controller?

If you like that bike, “A” pointed out to me that there are some on aliexpress for less money and similar specs. (Admittedly, they don’t look as cool…)