Buying new e-bike, I need referrals, tips, advice,insight

Bikerseth

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My lectric expedition dual battery bike got stolen and I’m in the market for a new bike. I got the cargo bike initially because I was going to be carting my son around as well as doing grocery shopping,etc.
after owning the cargo bike I realized a cargo bike wasn’t really necessary, and I’ve decided that if for any reason I need more space I’ll just attach a bike trailer or something.
With that said… after riding on the expedition that has zero suspension whatsoever I would very much like something with suspension. I did upgrade the seat immediately to the giant seat and even still it wasn’t very comfortable, and with my son sitting on the back even on the cushions he would grunt and groan going over bumps and such. And I totally understand because hands down That bike is not comfortable.
So I need suspension.
I want to stick with dual battery. I remember doing research before I bought the lectric and found another bike that had dual batteries but they were independent of each other, and it went a lot faster than the lectric on throttle only. I really liked that one and I wish I could remember what it was, perhaps someone on here knows which one I’m talking about.

Basically, I want something comfortable, dual battery, does more than 20mph on throttle only, and it needs rear cushion capability for my son to sit on. Something similar to the Fucare Gemini. But that bike seems kind of cheapo to me.

I really wish I could remember what that one was that I researched before. I remember watching a video of a guy doing a review on it and it was a long video of him doing door dash or something around his town, and he went as far as he could on one battery, then turned the other battery on and kept going … it came down to that bike, or the lectric. that bike literally had everything I wanted except for the cargo rear but it did have room for a regular rear rack, or a pad. I went with the lectric for the safety of the cargo rear but my son is 10 now and he’s fine back there on a rear pad alone, and I want something enjoyable/comfortable to ride and I can do everything I need grocery wise with a front basket and backpack. Also the front light on the lectric was garbage.


Anyway, please help me get into another bike. Any input is appreciated, thank you
 
How big/heavy are you, also your passenger?
What percentage of your ride do you carry a passenger?
Does your son want to ride on his own?
What is your budget?
How often on your ride require a better front light?
How often do you ride long enough to require dual battery?

Seat comfort can vary from rider to rider, what's comfortable for you may be different from everyone else.
Universally, padded bike shorts can provide much comfort to just about every kind of cyclist.
 
And now for a related, but what first appears as a tangential suggestion.
Buy it quickly, as new tariffs look like they will be upon us within 2 weeks.
 
Any idea of how much the new "extra 25% duty on top of long-standing tariffs" on Ebikes will raise the cost of $1,000 Ebike in USA?
 
I don’t think you’ll find a bike with rear suspension that could both take the weight, and accommodate the big weight change with/without a passenger. My requirements are similar and the compromise DIY solution on my RadRunner-Plus is a Suntour suspension seat post for me and a sprung saddle for the passenger. It works pretty well from a comfort point of view, way better than nothing for sure, but the rear saddle is quite high and that’s not good for balance - getting the passenger as low as possible on the back makes things much easier.
 

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Bikerseth
I'll jump in here and offer a suggestion for a new bike for you.The Roll-Road Emma 3.0.
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It has the features that you say you want.
Twin batteries.
A 1500 watt rear hub motor.
The advertised top speed unlocked at 35 mph. I've had mine up to 32 mph with a little head wind.
Seat big enough for two with already existing attachment points for passenger foot pegs on the swing arm.
Suspension front and rear.
You didn't mention what kind of tires you want. The Emma 3 comes with road tires. I like them. No Nobby buzz on the street.
The price right now is $2000, no tax, shipped. But the price is going back up soon.

I've had mine for two weeks and I like it more each time I ride it. I had no PAS right from the start due to a broken wire to the torque sensor. Three days after I sent the Roll Road crew some photos, they sent me a new sensor and a tool kit. And posted an installation video on line. Problem solved.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
 
Any idea of how much the new "extra 25% duty on top of long-standing tariffs" on Ebikes will raise the cost of $1,000 Ebike in USA?
I would guess 25%, but there are some variables. Technically the tariffs are on Aluminum, Magnets (used in the motors), Lithium batteries, etc. This is unless they re-categorize an eBike as an "EV" (electric vehicle) which garners a 100 percent tariff. eBikes were defined as a "consumer product" under the auspices of the "Consumer Product Safety Commission" (CPSC), but the CPSC has defined the eBikes under their definition to be ones with motors no larger than 750 Watts. So, for more powerful bikes, the defined category of "consumer product" and thus exempt to the tariff may be under risk.

All I know is that the tariff protection under the CPSC will end on the 14th of June 2024. This much is quite clear.

Your best bet would be to directly contact the company selling the bike you like and ask them what their pricing will become after the tariff structure is modified.
 
How big/heavy are you, also your passenger?
What percentage of your ride do you carry a passenger?
Does your son want to ride on his own?
What is your budget?
How often on your ride require a better front light?
How often do you ride long enough to require dual battery?

Seat comfort can vary from rider to rider, what's comfortable for you may be different from everyone else.
Universally, padded bike shorts can provide much comfort to just about every kind of cyclist.
Perhaps you can check my most recent post, I posted it earlier and it’s got the rundown of everything
 
Bikerseth
I'll jump in here and offer a suggestion for a new bike for you.The Roll-Road Emma 3.0.
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It has the features that you say you want.
Twin batteries.
A 1500 watt rear hub motor.
The advertised top speed unlocked at 35 mph. I've had mine up to 32 mph with a little head wind.
Seat big enough for two with already existing attachment points for passenger foot pegs on the swing arm.
Suspension front and rear.
You didn't mention what kind of tires you want. The Emma 3 comes with road tires. I like them. No Nobby buzz on the street.
The price right now is $2000, no tax, shipped. But the price is going back up soon.

I've had mine for two weeks and I like it more each time I ride it. I had no PAS right from the start due to a broken wire to the torque sensor. Three days after I sent the Roll Road crew some photos, they sent me a new sensor and a tool kit. And posted an installation video on line. Problem solved.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
Maybe you can check my most recent post and give some insight ?
 
I don’t think you’ll find a bike with rear suspension that could both take the weight, and accommodate the big weight change with/without a passenger. My requirements are similar and the compromise DIY solution on my RadRunner-Plus is a Suntour suspension seat post for me and a sprung saddle for the passenger. It works pretty well from a comfort point of view, way better than nothing for sure, but the rear saddle is quite high and that’s not good for balance - getting the passenger as low as possible on the back makes things much easier.
My son is around 60lbs or so. I just want him to be comfortable because he’s going to be on it for 22 miles a day. . Perhaps you can check out my most recent post, it’s got all the info in there and maybe you have some insight
 
How big/heavy are you, also your passenger?
What percentage of your ride do you carry a passenger?
Does your son want to ride on his own?
What is your budget?
How often on your ride require a better front light?
How often do you ride long enough to require dual battery?

Seat comfort can vary from rider to rider, what's comfortable for you may be different from everyone else.
Universally, padded bike shorts can provide much comfort to just about every kind of cyclist.
Perhaps you can take a look at my most recent post, I put a lot of Information there. Hoping you’ll have insight
 
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