2 stroke bicycle vs electric bike

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I'm curious what people on this forum think of the comparison between e-bikes vs 2-stroke gas powered bicycles as a transportation and commuting bike. I'm talking about the common ones that involve a kit, and putting an engine on decent 10-speed bike with a wheel rag.
At first, my thinking was a 2 stroke with its light engine and very low gas cost (compared to car) would be superior because of course, e-bikes have batteries which can eventually wear out and be expensive to replace. A 2 stroke can go on endlessly right, and no battery needed, lower cost. And in theory if you ever found yourself on a very long commute, you would never have worries of needing to stop and recharge. Simply pull into a gas station, and a few bucks later you're topped off and ready to go again. Provided you bring some oil to mix, and all that.

However there are some significant drawbacks, at least from my point of view. I'm really revisiting this now that I have experienced riding an e-bike and appreciated some of the benefits of the e-bike side.

First, the noise. A 2 stroke bike is going to be much louder, which can disturb neighbors as well as making late night and early riding somewhat problematic.
Also there is the engine smoke with gas engines, not an issue with e-bikes. And finally there is the maintenance of the motor, which I feel is more involved (though don't know from personal experience) than an e-bike. I imagine these engines do wear out eventually. I feel that there is a lot of tweaking going on with these type of bicycles, and maybe they aren't as reliable? A 2 stroke bike maybe, is more of a hobby than simply a bike.

Does anybody have any thoughts on this? I am rather inexperienced with both. I imagine that e-bike batteries can be swapped out and replaced when they die, but what if your brand of battery can no longer be found for sale, isn't manufactured? How long do you find they last and how much do they typically cost to replace.
 
I'm curious what people on this forum think of the comparison between e-bikes vs 2-stroke gas powered bicycles as a transportation and commuting bike. I'm talking about the common ones that involve a kit, and putting an engine on decent 10-speed bike with a wheel rag.
At first, my thinking was a 2 stroke with its light engine and very low gas cost (compared to car) would be superior because of course, e-bikes have batteries which can eventually wear out and be expensive to replace. A 2 stroke can go on endlessly right, and no battery needed, lower cost. And in theory if you ever found yourself on a very long commute, you would never have worries of needing to stop and recharge. Simply pull into a gas station, and a few bucks later you're topped off and ready to go again. Provided you bring some oil to mix, and all that.

However there are some significant drawbacks, at least from my point of view. I'm really revisiting this now that I have experienced riding an e-bike and appreciated some of the benefits of the e-bike side.

First, the noise. A 2 stroke bike is going to be much louder, which can disturb neighbors as well as making late night and early riding somewhat problematic.
Also there is the engine smoke with gas engines, not an issue with e-bikes. And finally there is the maintenance of the motor, which I feel is more involved (though don't know from personal experience) than an e-bike. I imagine these engines do wear out eventually. I feel that there is a lot of tweaking going on with these type of bicycles, and maybe they aren't as reliable? A 2 stroke bike maybe, is more of a hobby than simply a bike.

Does anybody have any thoughts on this? I am rather inexperienced with both. I imagine that e-bike batteries can be swapped out and replaced when they die, but what if your brand of battery can no longer be found for sale, isn't manufactured? How long do you find they last and how much do they typically cost to replace.
People used to just do things like rebuild a battery themselves... In many countries people still do on a small scale with lead acid batteries. With L-ion or any lithium based battery that would be either easier if you can still get raw cells or if not harder since lead plates can be melted down and recast / made... Nothing I personally know of about refurbishing lithium products where as lead is fairly simple.

I'll take an E-bike over any other bicycle engine simply on account of the noise and how tired I am of noise!
 
I see a gentleman riding past my house daily on a 2 stroke. He can barely make it up the hill. It's loud. The length of your commute and the weather you intend to ride in are your main factors.if you'll ride rain or shine, you may want a gas powered. If you can pick and choose which days you ride...battery all the way. You'll have more power and enjoy peace and quiet.
 
To me, the main pros of the 2-stroke are speed and range. I think they'll get you going 40+ mph pretty reliably, but are your bicycle's brakes up to the job? Almost certainly not. Then the tweaking, smoke and noise; all are significant. These are not exactly Honda engines, they're straight-up ChiComm.

To address the range, what is your realistic range requirement? I bet it can be addressed with an eBike.

If you get an easy-rolling eBike with narrower, smoother tread tires and it's not too heavy, remember that they're fairly easy to pedal. If you miscalculate the range, you'll still get home; just slower. You can take eBikes on multi-use paths, as long as you're considerate. Can't do that with a motorbike.

As to the battery concerns, just get a quality eBike from a brand known for good after sale support. They'll make batteries for a good while. They try HARD not to change the fit of them, so they don't have to stock endless variations. Just don't get some junky Amazon bike. Get something like: Lectric, Ride1UP, Aventon, Trek, Specialized. Something of quality, because remember that it will replace your car, much of the time, so it's worth spending a few bucks on.

To me, the more reasonable gas alternative is a Japanese 49cc scooter. They'll go a hundred miles at 35 mph quietly and efficiently with very little maintenance. Proper lights & brakes. Very low running costs and fully street legal.
 
I have a lot of experience with both kinds of bikes. This was my best, and last china girl before going electric. That being said you'll be a lot better off by far with an electric bike. eBikes enjoy greater freedom than gas bikes. You can't ride a gas bike on a city trail, or take it on a train. And as you already know, gas bikes are stinky, and noisy. At speed china girl's have so much vibration it tends to destroy everything on the bike, which makes for constant maintenance. Now days battery technology is such that range is no longer a problem. And one of the biggest differences is you can buy a nice factory eBike that has all the bugs worked out for less than building a comparable gas bike. Look for bike with around a 30ah battery and you'll have all the range you need. Folding bikes are handy for commuting because a lot of times when you get where you're going you can fold it up and take it inside with you. I have friend that bought one of these, and it was pretty impressive quality, especially considering the price.
https://wildewayebike.com/products/upgrade-version-fw11s-3-0-electric-bike-1
 

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